Best Black Ink to Refill Brush Pens
Which waterproof black ink can you use to refill brush pens is one of the most frequently asked questions I get.
Let me put out a disclaimer first before I recommend anything. The inks mentioned below are all pigmented ink. So there's still a chance that they may clog your brush pen, especially if you leave the ink in the pen for long periods of time without using the brush pen. I suggest trying the ink out on the cheaper Pentel Pocket Brush Pen before putting the ink in expensive ones. And take note of how often you use your brush pens.
The type of ink you want to avoid are those ink that leave crusty bits around the cap. India ink and sumi inks are strictly no-no. Fountain pen inks, which are usually dye inks, are safe to use in brush pens, but they are not waterproof and may have lightfast issues.
As for the pricing, they will vary depending on where you buy them of course. I've provided Amazon links where you can compare the prices.
The best ink to use in brush pens is probably the Sailor KiwaGuro, made by the same company that makes the Sailor fountain pens.
This ink is dark, dries relatively fast, is matte when dry and flows well. When used to cover large areas, the application is also quite even.
You can find the Sailor KiwaGuro on Amazon (direct links below):
Amazon.com | Amazon.ca | Amazon.co.uk | Amazon.de | Amazon.fr | Amazon.it | Amazon.es | Amazon.co.jp | Amazon.com.au
My second recommendation is the De Atramentis Archive Ink which is made specially for fountain pen use.
This ink is a bit more patch compared to the Sailor KiwaGuro. But if you apply your strokes slower, you'll see less of the of patchy look.
You can find De Atramentis Archive ink on Amazon (direct links below):
Amazon.com | Amazon.ca | Amazon.co.uk | Amazon.de | Amazon.fr | Amazon.es | Amazon.it | Amazon.co.jp | Amazon.com.au
Third recommendation is the Platinum Carbon Ink. Performance is quite similar to De Atramentis.
You can find Platinum Carbon ink on Amazon (direct links below):
Amazon.com | Amazon.ca | Amazon.co.uk | Amazon.de | Amazon.fr | Amazon.it | Amazon.es | Amazon.co.jp | Amazon.com.au
Noodlers Bulletproof Black flows really well but is too patchy. And the ink dries too slowly.
Another recommendation is the Rotring Ink that is made for the Rotring technical pens (eg Isograph). Performance is similar to Sailor KiwaGuro. You can get this ink in large 250ml and small 23ml bottles.
You can find Rotring ink on Amazon (direct links below):
Amazon.com | Amazon.ca | Amazon.co.uk | Amazon.de | Amazon.fr | Amazon.it | Amazon.es | Amazon.co.jp | Amazon.com.au
Comments
Hi Teoh,
Hi Teoh,
Great blog and thanks for giving such useful advice! Just one question: in relation to Rotring's Ink, sometimes it seems you are suggesting it might be used for fountain pens as well (maybe I am not remembering correctly...) but you also wrote "Since it's pigmented, it is not advised to use it inside fountain pens". As it is widely available here in Europe (more than the Carbon Ink,Noodler's and the expensive De Atramentis), I just wanted to understand if I might use it for this as well!
Thanks for the info!
And by the way, happy new year!
Luigi
@Luifabb
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@Luifabb
Since the ink is pigmented, there's going to be some risk. If your pen can be dismantled thoroughly for cleaning, that's great. Other waterproof fountain pen inks to consider are Sailor KiwaGuro and Platinum Carbon. Check eBay too. Sometimes prices there are quite good.
You do not want to put
In reply to Hi Teoh, by Luifabb (not verified)
You do not want to put technical pen ink into a fountain pen. I use it frequently in my technical pen, and anywhere that the ink has a chance to dry out, it dries into a solid crust. It does not reconstitute with water. This means that if it dries out inside your pen, it will leave solid chunks behind, and you won't be able to wash it out with water.
Do you know where I can find
Do you know where I can find any of these options in the shops in Singapore?
@Anonymous
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@Anonymous
You can get De Atramentis Archive or Document inks at Overjoyed art store.
What a great article, thank
What a great article, thank you so much for putting this together. What is the name of the brush pen that is pictured here? Are used to have that pan and I want to get it back!
Thank you for this really
Thank you for this really great article. It is concise and to the point, it really is perfect. Can you please tell me the name of the brush pan you have pictured here? It was my favorite and I am sorry I threw it out.
@Anonymous
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@Anonymous
That's the Pentel Color Brush Pen
@Lisa M
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@Lisa M
That's the Pentel Color Brush Pen
https://www.parkablogs.com/content/review-pentel-color-brush-pens
Diluted inkjet ink works
Diluted inkjet ink works incredibly well! Better and cheaper than anything else i tried, and resistant to water and even alcohol based markers once dry.
a concentration of 5-10% is still very high, and as uniformly pitch black as permanent marker, down to fractions of a percent, to get tones of grey and a more shadable, wash-like ink. it's thin as water, so it runs pretty dry. (good for dry brush effects) but that can be adjusted by "lubricating" it with a little gum arabic, to make it run thicker and smoother. just test it with a brush, and add more if needed. (write down how much you added! ideally use syringes for full controll over the mixing ratios)
You absolutely have to dilute it sufficiently, or it will over-saturate the paper like oil and keep smearing and bleeding. Pigmented ink, ment for HP950 cartridges gave me the cleanest and deepest black so far.
PS: It's perfectly safe for fountain pens too, because the ink contains hardly any dissolved solids, and only becomes permanent when bonding to cellulose.
For a much cheaper
In reply to Thank you for this really by Lisa M (not verified)
For a much cheaper alternative, search for "Bonkote flux Pen"s on ebay or aliexpress. They are almost identical to pentels, including the regulator tube, and can be found for 1-2$. The bristols are a bit finer and softer.
Another option are water brushes. Those dont come with a regulator and thus aren't "pocket safe", but on the other hand, you can squeeze them a bit to quickly lay down a lot of ink. the little cylindrical ones, coming in packs of three for around 1.50-1.99$ have surprisingly good brushes. nice firm springyness and very juicy flow, due to the thincker bristols.
PS: Tinker with them a bit, many parts are interchangable.
Thanks for the informative
Thanks for the informative article! I came over from your youtube, and your videos are consistently very helpful. I’m currently using noodler’s ink for my fountain pens, and just purchased my first pentel fude pen. Would you personally recommend refilling with noodler’s ink?
Thanks again.
@Grant Eason
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@Grant Eason
Noodler's Ink is safe. You can refill and see if you like how it performs.
Hello!. thank you for this
Hello!. thank you for this valuable information. Have you tried inks for inkjet printers?
@Cristian Blanco
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@Cristian Blanco
I've not tried those inks. Anyway, inkjet inks are way more expensive compared to normal fountain pen inks. I believe those inks are made to dry faster because you won't want wet ink to mess around on paper as the paper is moving out of the printer.
hello! what can i do if my
hello! what can i do if my brush on the tips separate from each other? when i put some water on them, they stick togheter and they work for a while, but after six or seven strokes this problem returns, i just bought this set, (akashiya sai watercolor brush pen) that is why i am concern, they are brand new!
@noah
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@noah
The bristles are probably damaged. Unfortunately there's no way to permanently fix them. So you have to reshape them to the point whenever they split again.
Hi, I was wondering if the
Hi, thanks for this helpful article. I was wondering if the Pentel fude brush pens could be dipped in water for making Chinese ink paintings. If so, I understand the inks you recommended above are waterproof; do you have any ink recommendations for the brush pen for this purpose?
@Tobi
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@Tobi
Sure you can mix with water for Chinese Ink effects.
Great! I noticed you
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Great! I noticed you recommended waterproof inks in your article. Are these suitable for Chinese ink painting purposes? Is there a water-soluble ink that you do recommend for the brush pen?
@Tobi
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@Tobi
For inks suitable for Chinese Ink paintings, look at how the ink dilutes, more specifically what kinda of colours the black will be come. Some black ink will give a warmer (almost brown look) while others will look cool (bluish). Some black inks just dilute to a neutral gray.
Unfortunately, it's difficult to tell how the black ink will dilute unless you test it for yourself.
Since Chinese ink paintings are painted with normal brushes, you can actually use any ink you want. There are inks that are marketed as Chinese ink and those should be suitable.
Do not get any inks with shellac because the ink will dry hard on the brush, even after you wash the brush thoroughly.
If it's just ink painting without mixed media, it doesn't matter whether the ink is waterproof or not. Just that waterproof inks are usually (not all) lightfast and won't fade with light when exposed for months/years.
I know people who use Lamy
I know people who use Lamy ink to refill the brush pens. Austin Kleon does. You can just search for his "Magic brush pen" video. Thanks for the tips!
Thank you for the tips on
Thank you for the tips on brush pens.
I've have several Pentels pocket brush pens, Kaimei KT-3, and Kuretake # 13.
They work well but for one thing... they all begin to flow too much ink while drawing.
I'm no longer able to get fine lines. So, After trying Platinum, and many other inks including Rotring, I'm out of options.
I have not tried the Sailor Kiwa-Guro Pigmented Black.
Not sure if I should spend more money there.
All these pens couldn't be defective. I live in two places. One is in central Texas, and the other high in the mountains of Colorado at 10k feet. The brush pens flood on me in both locations.
Have you got any ideas on that? Thank you.
@Lee
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